Summary of the debate in the European Parliament on 28 September
Cecilia Malmström, Member of the Commission. − Madam President, the situation of the refugees stranded in North Africa is of course an issue of major concern. When the crisis began, the Commission immediately called for a meeting between Member States, the Commission, the IOM and the UNHCR to discuss the situation of the refugees stranded in Libya and to get an assessment of the resettlement needs.
As you know, the European Union tried to evacuate – and succeeded in evacuating – thousands of people from third countries and bring them back to their countries of origin. We also called for the Member States to pledge resettlement places for refugees coming from the region. Several Member States announced their readiness to consider resettlement or to rearrange their annual quotas in order to be able to resettle urgent cases. In parallel, the Commission financed humanitarian assistance to be provided to all refugees leaving the country. That also included an evacuation process from places such as Misratah, the establishment of refugee camps and assistance with registration and reports.
In May this year I organised a meeting with the Ministers, a pledging conference on resettlement of the stranded refugees. Further pledges were made. In total, EU Member States pledged 408 places for refugees from North Africa. In addition, Norway pledged 300. This is good but is clearly not enough.
The Commission is, as you know, not directly involved in the process of resettlement itself. That is jointly run by the UNHCR, the Member States and the IOM. The information I have on the statistics there is based on the figures I got from the UNHCR. So far, eight EU Member States have agreed to consider 374 cases submitted by the UNHCR. Of this number so far, seven Member States have accepted 303 refugees for resettlement; 155 have already departed: 25 to Belgium, 130 to Sweden.
We are very aware that the need for a settlement is much greater. However, that decision rests with the Member States. What the Commission can do is quite limited. We can encourage Member States through financial support from the European Refugee Fund, particularly for the regions where there is a regional protection programme in place. As an incentive, Member States can receive EUR 4 000 from the Refugee Fund per resettled refugee coming from any of these countries.
The Regional Protection Programme in North Africa includes Egypt, Libya and Tunisia and is run jointly with the UNHCR. At the Commission’s request, the programme has an important resettlement component financed from its EUR 3.6 million budget. This is intended to speed up the sometimes very slow process.
It is not yet possible to assess how many of the 3 083 of the settlement places pledged by the Member States formally within their quotas for REF funding for next year will be allocated from this region, but I hope that the urgent need in North Africa will be considered and that the Member States will use large parts of their quotas to resettle refugees from Egypt, Libya and Tunisia.
The regional protection programmes in North Africa were created to increase the protection space in the region. It is our long-term goal to build up an asylum capacity together with these new governments so that the improved international standards can be in place. This is also part of the mobility partnership that we are seeking with these countries.
As for the joint EU resettlement programme, there is disagreement over the procedure. I very much regret that the compromise proposals so far have not been able to gain support. The European Refugee Fund is, as you know, quite a large and complex mechanism and is run according to well-defined rules. The pledging of resettlement places must take place by June each year, and that means that any amendment to the Refugee Fund decision must be finalised very soon to ensure a smooth operation.
I can assure you that the Commission is working hard to develop better and more flexible ways to fund EU resettlement, and that will be part of the post-2013 financial instrument. We hope that increased funding, combined with new flexible rules, will result in more resettlement from EU Member States.
Ladies and gentlemen, this year we are celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Geneva Convention. During the commemoration in Geneva in December this year, state commitments will, hopefully, be made. The UNHCR has expressed hope that the EU Member States will come forward with new resettlement pledges, and we will continue to call on the Commission to resettle the most vulnerable refugees from North Africa and the Horn of Africa. Today, before this Parliament, I would like to ask you to join us in urging the Member States to do more and to show solidarity with those countries where there are people in extreme need of help and resettlement. Together maybe we can achieve something so that new commitments could be made. This would be a true commitment for solidarity and responsibility, sharing and also showing European Union values at their best.
Cecilia Malmström, Member of the Commission. − Madam President, honourable Members, thank you for this very important debate. Resettlement is of course an extremely important life-saving measure for the most vulnerable people, but it is also a way to show solidarity. We have all rejoiced at events as the people of Tunisia, Libya and Egypt have risen to throw out their dictators and call for freedom and democracy. In the war in Libya, trying to throw out Gaddafi and his regime, we have all supported it and do support it. It has led to a lot of refugees. Many of these people have gone to Libya. Many of these people have been able to return to their home, their country of origin, with help from the European Union, we must remember that. The Tunisian authorities have also done formidable work to ease the situation. Some people might still be able to go home and some, as was said, could maybe go back to Libya when the situation becomes a bit more stable, but there are people who cannot return.
I have also been to the camp you referred to in Tunisia and I saw people from Eritrea, from Somalia, looking at their fellow refugees in the neighbouring tents, disappearing one after another, being sent home or somewhere else, asking, ‘Why? What will happen to me?’ They cannot go home, they have no state to go to because that state is a failed state, or they are persecuted. We must help these people.
Member States have done a lot. Some have offered resettlement. Some have offered more, and that is still to be processed, and I want to thank these Member States. I think we should also thank the US, Australia and Canada, because they have taken a lot but, dear friends, it is our neighbourhood. We are the European neighbours of these countries. We could do much more and I hope that we can after this come together even more, ask Member States to do more, to take responsibility. We are certainly willing on the Commission side to do our part. We have called for pledging meetings. We have asked the Member States, we have put resources at our disposal, we are even offering transport support for these people to come to the European Union, but Member States must also now live up to their promises and their nice words about solidarity.
10. Soutien de l'Union aux réfugiés en Tunisie (débat)Vidéo des interventions
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Presidente. − L'ordine del giorno reca la dichiarazione della Commissione sul sostegno dell'Unione europea ai rifugiati in Tunisia.
Cecilia Malmström, Member of the Commission. − Madam President, the situation of the refugees stranded in North Africa is of course an issue of major concern. When the crisis began, the Commission immediately called for a meeting between Member States, the Commission, the IOM and the UNHCR to discuss the situation of the refugees stranded in Libya and to get an assessment of the resettlement needs.
As you know, the European Union tried to evacuate – and succeeded in evacuating – thousands of people from third countries and bring them back to their countries of origin. We also called for the Member States to pledge resettlement places for refugees coming from the region. Several Member States announced their readiness to consider resettlement or to rearrange their annual quotas in order to be able to resettle urgent cases. In parallel, the Commission financed humanitarian assistance to be provided to all refugees leaving the country. That also included an evacuation process from places such as Misratah, the establishment of refugee camps and assistance with registration and reports.
In May this year I organised a meeting with the Ministers, a pledging conference on resettlement of the stranded refugees. Further pledges were made. In total, EU Member States pledged 408 places for refugees from North Africa. In addition, Norway pledged 300. This is good but is clearly not enough.
The Commission is, as you know, not directly involved in the process of resettlement itself. That is jointly run by the UNHCR, the Member States and the IOM. The information I have on the statistics there is based on the figures I got from the UNHCR. So far, eight EU Member States have agreed to consider 374 cases submitted by the UNHCR. Of this number so far, seven Member States have accepted 303 refugees for resettlement; 155 have already departed: 25 to Belgium, 130 to Sweden.
We are very aware that the need for a settlement is much greater. However, that decision rests with the Member States. What the Commission can do is quite limited. We can encourage Member States through financial support from the European Refugee Fund, particularly for the regions where there is a regional protection programme in place. As an incentive, Member States can receive EUR 4 000 from the Refugee Fund per resettled refugee coming from any of these countries.
The Regional Protection Programme in North Africa includes Egypt, Libya and Tunisia and is run jointly with the UNHCR. At the Commission’s request, the programme has an important resettlement component financed from its EUR 3.6 million budget. This is intended to speed up the sometimes very slow process.
It is not yet possible to assess how many of the 3 083 of the settlement places pledged by the Member States formally within their quotas for REF funding for next year will be allocated from this region, but I hope that the urgent need in North Africa will be considered and that the Member States will use large parts of their quotas to resettle refugees from Egypt, Libya and Tunisia.
The regional protection programmes in North Africa were created to increase the protection space in the region. It is our long-term goal to build up an asylum capacity together with these new governments so that the improved international standards can be in place. This is also part of the mobility partnership that we are seeking with these countries.
As for the joint EU resettlement programme, there is disagreement over the procedure. I very much regret that the compromise proposals so far have not been able to gain support. The European Refugee Fund is, as you know, quite a large and complex mechanism and is run according to well-defined rules. The pledging of resettlement places must take place by June each year, and that means that any amendment to the Refugee Fund decision must be finalised very soon to ensure a smooth operation.
I can assure you that the Commission is working hard to develop better and more flexible ways to fund EU resettlement, and that will be part of the post-2013 financial instrument. We hope that increased funding, combined with new flexible rules, will result in more resettlement from EU Member States.
Ladies and gentlemen, this year we are celebrating the 60th anniversary of the Geneva Convention. During the commemoration in Geneva in December this year, state commitments will, hopefully, be made. The UNHCR has expressed hope that the EU Member States will come forward with new resettlement pledges, and we will continue to call on the Commission to resettle the most vulnerable refugees from North Africa and the Horn of Africa. Today, before this Parliament, I would like to ask you to join us in urging the Member States to do more and to show solidarity with those countries where there are people in extreme need of help and resettlement. Together maybe we can achieve something so that new commitments could be made. This would be a true commitment for solidarity and responsibility, sharing and also showing European Union values at their best.
Agustín Díaz de Mera García Consuegra, en nombre del Grupo PPE. – Señora Presidenta, señora Comisaria, a iniciativa mía, del 13 al 16 de julio visitamos Túnez, los campos de su frontera con Libia y el campo de Sousa: cuatro mil quinientas personas de Darfur, de Eritrea, de Somalia, de Sudán, de Etiopía, marfileños, palestinos o iraquíes en situaciones infrahumanas, sufriendo un calor extremo a una temperatura de cincuenta grados.
Enfermedades, violencia, el campo quemado tres veces, falta de higiene y el agua escasa y a veces salina. Una gran labor del ACNUR, de la Cruz Roja, de la Media Luna Roja, de Médicos sin Fronteras, y otros.
Túnez ha sido solidario con los desplazados y refugiados de Libia. Ha acogido en sus casas particulares a noventa mil libios. Pero nadie se ocupa, más allá de la emergencia, de los que están en Sousa.
Hay una gran diferencia entre la Europa donante –la que da– y la Europa que no recibe. La solidaridad es hacia fuera, pero no ejerce la solidaridad en su territorio.
Se trata hoy de hacer un llamamiento apasionado en favor del reasentamiento, de la acogida de los cuatro mil en territorio europeo. No es ni difícil ni costoso. Hay compromisos, como ha dicho la Comisaria, pero hace falta algo más que voluntad y declaraciones de intenciones.
Hay que reasentar cuanto antes a estos grupos que en Sousa sufren tantas penalidades y que en Europa podrían encontrar una esperanza para sus vidas destruidas.
Que no nos abandone Europa, nos dijeron muchas veces, y voces desesperadas. Otros decían: mi hijo ha perdido diez kilos, está desnutrido, necesito atención médica, no podemos ir a ninguna parte.
Las ofertas de acogida suman, sumarían –de realizarse– setecientas dieciocho, pero quedan tres mil setecientos siete. Ruego encarecidamente, señora Presidenta, al Consejo y a la Comisión su compromiso para resolver cuanto antes este grave problema humanitario.
Claude Moraes, on behalf of the S&D Group. – Madam President, we will of course join with the Commissioner in urging Member States to do more. As Mr Díaz de Mera García Consuegra has said for those of us on the delegation – and a few of us are now in the Chamber – there were some harrowing sights in the refugee camps, and it is worth putting that on record. On a daily basis, children, women and men face extreme heat, sandstorms, limited access to clean water, inadequate sanitation and hygiene facilities. Of course this is the story of all refugee camps in extreme areas, but I think all of our colleagues would agree that what we also saw was extreme generosity by the Tunisian people, by the army. These are people of whom many are living on the poverty line, yet they took refugees into their own homes and we witnessed this story.
What it means for us is a contrast between that and a more urgent situation today. I spoke to the UNHCR last week and it has identified 5 291 persons in extreme positions who could be resettled. They have been checked. They can be resettled. We are in a situation where we know the figures, we have done the organisation and of course the Tunisian border will now be closed because of the sheer number of sub-Saharan African refugees, people who have been rejected by the rebel forces in Libya, who are now coming since our visit to the area. So there is a more urgent situation today than ever before and, with the elections also coming, the political pressures on Tunisia are extreme.
Since that delegation visit we ask you to redouble your efforts. We will join you in doing it. It is crucial also that the joint EU resettlement programme is established before the new multiannual financial framework. The deadlock is unblocked in Council. It would allow Member States to pledge resettlement places in May 2012, to be offered in 2013, already a long time to wait for those who are in urgent need.
Parliament has also proposed supplementary funding for any new resettlement countries and this could give the incentive that is needed to involve more Member States in resettlement. In the shorter term unblocking the resettlement programme will also allow the European Asylum Support Office to take up its role of coordinating cooperation between EU Member States and in supporting those that are new to resettlement, but the political message is very clear: resettlement does not involve huge numbers; they are very modest numbers but they are highly symbolic. I know colleagues who visited the camps will agree with me that there was one country on their lips, and that was Norway. Norway had resettled refugees, the United States had resettled refugees, Canada had resettled, and of course we in the European Union had lagged behind. We must put that right. We must get the political message right, and the humanitarian message correct.
Sonia Alfano, a nome del gruppo ALDE. – Signor Presidente, onorevoli colleghi, Commissario Malmström, oggi ha avuto luogo il primo incontro della task force UE-Tunisia, che ha come scopo il sostegno della transizione democratica e la ripresa economica.
Quest'anno l'impegno finanziario dell'Europa è stato raddoppiato e ovviamente me ne complimento perché la Tunisia, con cui abbiamo un partenariato privilegiato, ha anche accettato di accogliere i rifugiati subsahariani che scappano dalla guerra in Libia. L'Unione europea, che ribadisce spesso il suo impegno a favore dei rifugiati, deve assolutamente sostenere e aiutare la Tunisia a gestire tali flussi migratori nel pieno rispetto dei diritti umani.
La Norvegia, che pur non fa parte dell'Unione europea, ha accettato di accogliere più di 300 rifugiati, mentre gli Stati membri dell'Unione europea accettano di accogliere in totale meno di 400 rifugiati. Lo ritengo un atteggiamento deplorevole e vergognoso, un vero oltraggio al principio di solidarietà che dovrebbe animare la politica mediterranea dell'Unione europea.
Ricordo inoltre che questi rifugiati sono attualmente sequestrati in campi comuni in condizioni di invivibilità. Proprio in quest'Aula stamattina il Parlamento europeo ha approvato con una larga maggioranza lo stanziamento di 43,9 milioni di euro per la gestione dei flussi di migranti e rifugiati, a seguito della repressione dei regimi autoritari e dei movimenti collegati alla Primavera araba. Questi fondi aggiuntivi saranno utilizzati per aiutare gli Stati membri più colpiti dai flussi e per migliorare il pattugliamento dei mari da parte di Frontex.
Ribadiamo il nostro sì ad un'Europa impegnata tanto nella promozione dei diritti umani quanto nella gestione dei flussi migratori e rigettiamo l'idea di un'Europa roccaforte xenofoba e chiusa. L'Unione europea oggi paga il prezzo dell'appoggio di ieri ai regimi dittatoriali del Nord Africa. Gli ex amici Gheddafi e Ben Ali sono caduti o stanno cadendo e le loro popolazioni fuggono dalla repressione.
Vorrei sapere a che punto è il programma comune di reinsediamento dell'Unione europea al momento bloccato al Consiglio. Chiedo a Lei, signora Commissario, estremamente sensibile e operativa, allo stato attuale come l'Unione europea si possa impegnare concretamente davanti a quest'urgenza umanitaria.
Colgo infine l'occasione per domandare alla Commissaria se è a conoscenza di quello che sta accadendo a Palermo, dove 250 migranti si trovano bloccati dalle autorità italiane a bordo di una nave, senza che sia stato emesso alcun provvedimento che ne autorizzi il trattenimento e negando loro sia il diritto alla libertà sia quello alla comunicazione con l'esterno. Grazie a numerosi esposti presentati alla Procura di Palermo da parte di numerosissime associazioni che si battono per i diritti umani palermitane e siciliane, proprio la Procura di Palermo ha avviato un'indagine.
Questo evento fa seguito ai fatti estremamente gravi che si sono verificati a Lampedusa la scorsa settimana dove la situazione è fuori controllo ed è a rischio l'incolumità sia della popolazione locale sia degli stessi migranti.
Charles Tannock, on behalf of the ECR Group. – Madam President, in Tunisia the departure of Ben Ali heralded the triumph of democracy over despotism. For the first time in generations, Tunisians have the right democratically to determine their own destiny. Under the new democratic leadership, stability has been restored in Tunis and the country is once more on the road to prosperity. Tourists have returned and international businesses are now making new investments. Therefore a clear distinction must be drawn between genuine asylum seekers and economic migrants leaving Tunisia and other North African countries, coming from further afield, who are arriving on the EU shores in very large numbers; indeed more than 40 000 since January this year.
It is deplorable that in Lampedusa, a refugee reception centre has been razed to the ground by Tunisian refugees protesting at their imminent repatriation. The EU must have a fair but robust approach in dealing with this large influx of asylum seekers and, in my view, return – or help Tunisia return, if they are still on North African soil – individuals to their country of origin in the large majority of cases.
We must also redouble our efforts to apprehend those thuggish members of the Ben Ali, Gaddafi and Mubarak regimes, some of whom – bizarrely – may now be attempting to become bogus asylum seekers in the European Union. They should face the criminal justice system if they have blood on their hands.
Judith Sargentini, namens de Verts/ALE-Fractie. – Voorzitter, mevrouw Malmström, we zijn precies daarom hier, om u te helpen de verschillende lidstaten te overtuigen van de noodzaak om deze vluchtelingen die in Tunesië zitten en geen kant op kunnen, te herhuisvesten op het Europese continent.
Het verbaast mij dat heel Europa in paniek is geraakt, toen 25 000 Tunesiërs zich op Lampedusa meldden, zozeer dat zelfs Frankrijk er de grenzen voor dicht gooide – 25 000 was eigenlijk niet zoveel – maar nu gaat het over 5 000 mensen. Het gaat dus om nóg minder mensen. En in tegenstelling tot wat mijnheer Tannock net zei, zijn dit mensen die niet meer terug naar huis kunnen, Somaliërs, Eritreërs, Soedanezen en nog een paar moeilijke landen in Afrika.
Er waren een jongen en een meisje daar, die ik trof in dat kamp in Shousha. Hij was 19, zij was 18, ze kwamen uit Somalië, hij had al langer gewerkt in Libië en zij was zwanger. Het was juli. Misschien is ze ondertussen wel bevallen. Maar het was juli, zij was zwanger, in die tent, in dat zand. Hij was 19 en had er al een carriëre op zitten als arbeider in Libië. Dat soort mensen, dat soort gezinnen verdienen een nieuwe kans.
Dan is het schaamteloos om te zien dat de Europese lidstaten – we hebben alle ambassadeurs aan tafel gehad in de hoofdstad van Tunesië, die dagen – dat die wegkijken en niets doen. Mevrouw commissaris, onze steun heeft u. Wij zullen allemaal direct onze eigen lidstaten aanschrijven, maar ik vind het spijtig dat ik het Pools Voorzitterschap nu niet om een reactie kan vragen.
Marie-Christine Vergiat, au nom du groupe GUE/NGL. – Madame la Présidente, le peuple tunisien a effectivement fait preuve d'un immense élan de générosité à l'égard des milliers de personnes qui ont fui la Libye. L'aide humanitaire, l'assistance technique de l'Union européenne n'ont pas fait défaut, vous l'avez dit. Ils sont aujourd'hui environ 5 000 qui peuvent prétendre au statut de réfugiés. Eh oui, M. Tannock, ils sont Érythréens, Éthiopiens, Somaliens, Soudanais, et vous savez bien que ceux-là ne peuvent pas retourner dans leur pays. Ils vivent dans des conditions effroyables en plein désert, je l'ai vu.
Le HCR a examiné 2 500 demandes sur la base des promesses de réinstallation, dont 1 500 des États-Unis et quelque 400 de Norvège, plus que l'ensemble des efforts des États membres de l'Union européenne.
Oui, ils sont seulement 7 à avoir accepté des réfugiés. Surtout votre pays, Madame la Commissaire, la Suède qui en a accepté près de 200. Le reste, la France et la Grande-Bretagne, pourtant parties prenantes au conflit libyen, ont refusé catégoriquement toute demande de réfugiés. Je trouve que ce débat n'est pas acceptable. Je trouve que nous pourrions faire un minimum d'efforts de générosité et je suis prête à m'associer à mes collègues pour lancer un appel à ces pays qui refusent de tendre la main.
(L'orateur accepte de répondre à une question "carton bleu" (article 149, paragraphe 8, du règlement).)
Charles Tannock (ECR). - Madam President, both the previous speakers mentioned me in their brief speeches, saying that these individuals cannot go back to their countries, and they specifically mentioned Ethiopia and Somalia. Well, I managed to go freely both to Ethiopia, three weeks ago, and to Somaliland. If I can travel there, I cannot see why anybody cannot travel there if that is the nationality of origin of these individuals.
My heart goes out to those in poverty but our role is to help these countries develop. We cannot accept economic migrants in unlimited numbers in our countries. They have to have a well-grounded fear of persecution to qualify as asylum seekers. It cannot just be on economic grounds.
Marie-Christine Vergiat (GUE/NGL). - Madame la Présidente, excusez-moi Monsieur Tannock, mais vous avez l'habitude de faire davantage preuve du sens des responsabilités. Vous osez dire ici que vous avez été dans ces pays et qu'eux ne peuvent pas retourner dans votre pays; vous vous moquez du monde, excusez-moi. Il me semble – il suffit de vous regarder – que vous n'êtes pas noir, que vous n'êtes pas un des habitants de ces pays-là, que vous n'avez aucun problème avec les dirigeants de ces pays-là. Ce sont des militants qui, pour la plupart, ont fui ces pays pour des raisons démocratiques! Vous soutenez la démocratie, partout à travers le monde, alors ne proférez pas de telles insanités, s'il vous plaît!
Philip Claeys (NI). - Voorzitter, het wordt dringend tijd dat wij het principe van de regionale opvang van vluchtelingen voorop gaan stellen en steunen in plaats van altijd maar meer mensen naar Europa te laten komen die geen enkel perspectief hebben op werk en op welke vorm van integratie dan ook. De overgrote meerderheid van al die mensen uit Noord-Afrika die naar Europa willen komen zijn trouwens geen vluchtelingen, maar economische gelukzoekers die meestal zeer grote geldsommen betalen aan de mensensmokkelaars die hen naar Europa brengen. Laat ons dus niet naïef zijn, want zeer veel van die mensen zijn allesbehalve sukkelaars en allesbehalve vluchtelingen. Het zijn integendeel juist die mensen die het meest nodig zijn voor de heropbouw van hun eigen land.
Er is blijkbaar iets ernstig mis met die hele zogenaamde Arabische lente. Want blijkbaar hebben veel Noord-Afrikanen zelf minder vertrouwen in hun nieuwe leiders dan wij vanuit de Europese Unie. Hoe zou u anders die aanhoudende emigratiestroom richting Lampedusa en Europa kunnen verklaren, mevrouw Malmström? We moeten dus duidelijk maken dat Europese steun aan de nieuwe regimes in Noord-Afrika, Tunesië onder meer, alleen maar mogelijk is als die immigratiestroom eindelijk ophoudt.
Judith Sargentini (Verts/ALE). - Voorzitter, mijnheer Claeys, – even voor de zekerheid – bent u zich ervan bewust dat de vluchtelingen waar wij vandaag over praten in de vluchtelingenkampen in Tunesië allemaal door de UNHCR getoetst zijn en allemaal de status van politiek vluchteling hebben gekregen? Vandaar de wens om deze mensen ergens ter wereld, in Europa bijvoorbeeld, te herhuisvesten. Mijn vraag aan u is: u begrijpt dat het hier gaat over vluchtelingen die allemaal een status van politiek vluchteling hebben?
Philip Claeys (NI). - Mevrouw Sargentini, we weten heel goed dat het voor de overgrote meerderheid gaat over mensen die geen politiek vluchteling zijn, maar die willen emigreren omwille van andere redenen dan het feit dat zij politiek vervolgd worden in hun land. Er zijn daar zeer grote problemen, die wil ik natuurlijk niet ontkennen, maar ik denk dat het onze plicht en onze taak is om vanuit Europa ervoor te zorgen dat men allerlei impulsen geeft aan die landen om de situatie daar ter plekke te verbeteren in plaats van altijd maar mensen het statuut van politiek vluchteling te geven dat niet overeenkomt met de realiteit. Want als we uw logica consequent gaan doorvoeren, moeten wij eigenlijk de hele bevolking van die landen naar Europa halen. Dit is natuurlijk absoluut onmogelijk.
Marie-Christine Vergiat (GUE/NGL). - Madame la Présidente, puis-je demander à l'orateur s'il accepte les décisions du HCR et ce que signifie pour lui les décisions du HCR? Car je répète ce que Mme Sargentini vient de vous dire et ce qu'a dit Mme la Commissaire, tout à l'heure: "Il s'agit uniquement de 5 000 personnes qui sont en situation de réfugiés politiques." Il ne s'agit pas de migrants économiques ou de vos soi-disant migrants économiques. Il s'agit d'une population très particulière!
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